I bought these as a replacement to my chunky grey sweatpants. They are thinner material so I knew these weren't necessarily my frolic in the snow pants BUT let me tell you something, let me tell you something. These joggers when worn around the house and occassionally outside (without any undergarment support) properly can place a man in the running for America's Next Top Grey Sweatpants Wearer. These pants were so hot that I actually stood in front of a mirror for 5 minutes checking out my own junk. Wow. True classic you have done it again...making big boys feel good about clothing again and giving little guys the support they need to make a big difference.